Roper and Campbell Families Y-Chromosome Comparison

L. David Roper (roperld@vt.edu)
(www.roperld.com)

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In a comparison of over 100 surname Y-chromosome markers I found that the closest surname to the Majority USA Roper family, also called the RoperY1 family, is the Campbell surname. Since then many Campbells have had their markers measured. Here I compare the Campbell markers with the paleolithic Roper markers.

The data are (Those ending in C and D are Campbells; those ending in R are Ropers:

Allele
(prefix DYS):
393 390 19(394) 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389a 392 389b 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464a 464b 464c 464c
6304 CoI 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 17 20 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
6361 JAC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 20 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
7678 AC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 20 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17
6789 PC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 20 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 15 17
9333 JC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
4401 WC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
6739 HC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17
6479 JFC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
6341 EC 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
428 JDC 12 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
7021 JDC2 12 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17
1566 TBD 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 14 15 16 16
1245 LDR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1247 RSR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
2157 NJR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
5647 GTR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1248 JHR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 16
1295 CSR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1701 SGR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 17 17
1250 RPD 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 11 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
2155 WAR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
5091 GLR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 18 9 11 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1249 DLR 13 23 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
8449 RJR 13 23 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
5541 RWR 13 23 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
5940 JER 13 25 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
2156 PSR 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
6084 VKR 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1294 RLR 12 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1299 CFER 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 14 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1700 DKR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 11 13 13 17 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
4868 JWR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 14 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
5133 RGR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 18 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
4867 JJRj 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 13 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
8460 DCR 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
8624 JWR2 13 24 14 10 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 17 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 16 16 17
1296 JJR 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 17 18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 15 17 17
1297 LWR 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 16 17 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 28 15 15 17 17
1606 CMR 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 16 18 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17
1246 JFHR 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 14 16 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 15 17 17
2160 GKR 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 19 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17
4146 JRR 13 24 14 11 11 13 12 13 12 14 13 16 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17

DYS389I=DYS389a is subtracted from DYS389II to give DYS389b. If one does not do this one can get either one too many or one too few relative mutations. See Y-Chromosome Markers for Many Families.

The relative mutations among these individuals are:

CoI JAC AC PC JC WC HC JFC EC JDC JDC2 TBD LDR RSR NJR GTR JHR CSR SGR RPD WAR GLR DLR RJR RWR JER PSR VKR RLR CFER DKR JWR RGR JJRj DCR JWR2 JJR LWR CMR JFHR GKR JRR
CoI 0 CoI
JAC 1 0 JAC
AC 2 1 0 AC
PC 3 2 1 0 PC
JC 2 1 2 3 0 JC
WC 2 1 2 3 0 0 WC
HC 3 2 2 3 1 1 0 HC
JFC 3 2 3 4 1 1 2 0 JFC
EC 3 2 3 4 1 1 2 2 0 EC
JDC 3 2 3 4 1 1 2 2 2 0 JDC
JDC2 4 3 4 5 2 2 3 3 1 1 0 JDC2
TBD 3 2 3 4 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 0 TBD
LDR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 0 LDR
RSR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 0 0 RSR
NJR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 0 0 0 NJR
GTR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 0 0 0 0 GTR
JHR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 0 0 0 0 0 JHR
CSR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 0 CSR
SGR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 1 1 1 1 1 2 0 SGR
RPD 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 0 RPD
WAR 5 4 5 6 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 0 WAR
GLR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 1 1 0 GLR
DLR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 0 DLR
RJR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 0 0 RJR
RWR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 0 0 0 RWR
JER 8 7 8 9 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 6 2 2 2 2 2 1 3 3 3 4 3 3 3 0 JER
PSR 5 4 5 6 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 0 PSR
VKR 5 4 5 6 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 0 0 VKR
RLR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 4 5 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 0 RLR
CFER 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 0 CFER
DKR 6 5 6 7 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 1 2 3 3 3 4 3 3 3 3 0 DKR
JWR 5 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 0 JWR
RGR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 0 RGR
JJRj 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 0 JJRj
DCR 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 4 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 0 DCR
JWR2 7 6 7 8 5 5 6 4 6 6 7 5 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 0 0 JWR2
JJR 7 6 7 7 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 6 7 7 7 7 7 8 6 8 6 7 6 6 6 9 6 6 8 8 7 8 8 8 8 8 0 JJR
LWR 9 8 8 8 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 8 7 7 7 7 7 8 6 8 8 9 8 8 8 9 6 6 8 8 9 8 8 8 8 8 6 0 LWR
CMR 11 10 10 10 9 9 8 10 10 10 11 8 10 10 10 10 10 11 9 11 9 10 11 11 11 12 9 9 11 11 8 11 11 11 11 11 8 7 0 CMR
JFHR 10 9 10 10 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 9 8 8 8 8 8 9 7 9 9 10 7 7 7 10 7 7 9 7 10 9 9 9 9 9 5 7 9 0 JFHR
GKR 7 8 8 9 7 7 6 8 8 8 9 8 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 10 8 9 10 10 10 11 8 8 10 10 7 8 8 10 10 10 8 9 8 13 0 GKR
JRR 11 12 12 11 11 11 10 12 12 12 13 12 11 11 11 11 11 12 11 12 12 13 12 12 12 13 10 10 12 12 13 10 12 10 12 12 11 8 9 10 10 0 JRR
CoI JAC AC PC JC WC HC JFC EC JDC JDC2 TBD LDR RSR NJR GTR JHR CSR SGR RPD WAR GLR DLR RJR RWR JER PSR VKR RLR CFER DKR JWR RGR JJRj DCR JWR2 JJR LWR CMR JFHR GKR JRR

A way to look at the results is through a phylogenetic network. I use the free software of Fluxus Engineering (http://www.fluxus-engineering.com/sharenet.htm) to calculate and draw a network. (There are usually several possible networks for any given set of markers, but I present only the simplest looking one calculated by the program.) The phylogenetic network diagram is a visual way to see the genetic distances or relative mutations among the participants.

Another way to look at the results is through a phylogenetic network. I use the free software of Fluxus Engineering (http://www.fluxus-engineering.com/sharenet.htm) to calculate and draw a network. (The official brief instructions for using the program are at http://www.fluxus-engineering.com/netwinfaq.htm. I have some further instructions at Brief Instructions for Using the Phylogenetic Network Program)(There are usually several possible networks for any given set of markers, but I present only the simplest looking one calculated by the program.) The phylogenetic network diagram is a visual way to see the genetic distances or relative mutations among the participants.

A phylogenetic network for these individuals is:


This is a reduced-median-median-joined calculation.
Note that the Campbells in the upper left corner are quite distinct from the MUR/RoperY1 cluster
and the other paleolithic Ropers, which seem to form in two groups.
This way of calculating a phylogenetic network does not account for the unusual nature of the four DYS464 markers.

To create time-ordered phylograms of the various paleolithic groups, I use the PHYLIP Neighbor software, with the UPGMA option (Unweighted Pair Group Method with Arithmetic Mean), and the relative-mutations matrix to generate a tree file (*.tre) to be plotted by the TreeView software. (For a description of how I do it, see PHYLIPTreeViewUse.htm.)

Here is a time-ordered phylogram for the Ropers and the Campbells:


Present time is on the right.
Note that Campbells and the MUR/RoperY1s separated from each other about 1200 ybp,
after the other paleolithic Ropers separated from the common ancestors of all.
This is about the time surnames came into use.
Here is another look at a phylogenetic network for the Campbells and paleolithic Ropers.
This way of calculating a phylogenetic network does account for the unusual nature of the four DYS464 markers,
which shows better the close relationship between the Campbells and the MUR/RoperY1s.

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